tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post268066735266114621..comments2023-11-03T03:17:27.053-05:00Comments on NPR Check: A Wolf in Shepard's Clothing - Savaging Zinn AgainMytwordshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04307620268159811668noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-83204789457731332952010-02-19T02:23:50.969-06:002010-02-19T02:23:50.969-06:00nice post. thanks.nice post. thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-37506659745424125422010-02-08T14:36:24.728-06:002010-02-08T14:36:24.728-06:00This was the best graphic ever(I would put ever in...This was the best graphic ever(I would put ever in bold if I could recall how!)and MyT you've had some great ones.<br /><br />Grumps, I'd say it was rather brilliant, especially before coffee.<br />Being a big Blackadder fan, I'm so glad you have kept him. That was , in my eyes, the best series ever and I still get sad when I recall him walking off to WW1. How nice it would be for one more revival that would have him come back. Of course that would defeat the point of the tragic loss of life in that war. Oh well.<br /><br />Back to the Zinn smear. Wasn't it incredibly obtuse for Keyes/Sweeney et al, to make Zinn's obit controversial,as I hope they are smart enough to know they did.<br />The people really paying attention to the obit, or any obit, are people that either cared for or respected that individual. Of course there are those that knew of him and disliked him not maintaining the whitewash of history but they are imo, a small fringe group.<br />I could go around and ask a few conservatives and if they knew of Howard Zinn, probably wouldn't notice his passing.<br />They, Keyes/Sweeney, either were idiots to have chosen to smear him with mostly his admirers paying attention, provoking the deluge of criticism,<br />OR<br />they were tossing a bone to the radical right, freaky fringe hate groups that Horror itz represents.<br /><br />Maybe it was just sloppy "journalism" that reflected the prevailing mindset at CPB/NPR.<br /><br />I just wonder if they actually regret it or only upset that their smears weren't more subtle. hmmm<br />G.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-66426974352593504492010-02-06T20:45:03.372-06:002010-02-06T20:45:03.372-06:00The irony is that the ombutts[wipe]man at NPR is a...The irony is that the ombutts[wipe]man at NPR is actually worse than the "journalists" she is supposed to be keeping "honest".<br /><br />NPR listeners would be much better served with NO ombutts[wipe]man at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-61391654024249684022010-02-05T18:46:44.356-06:002010-02-05T18:46:44.356-06:00There is not a single, legitimate, academic venue ...There is not a single, legitimate, academic venue in which David (W)Horowitz would be adjudged a sufficiently distinguished scholar to attack Zinn as he did on NPR.Woody (Tokin Librul/Rogue Scholar/ Helluvafella!)https://www.blogger.com/profile/09205896988142798901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-51741502981826179162010-02-05T10:52:54.088-06:002010-02-05T10:52:54.088-06:00Yah, FAIR just sent out Rapunzel's typically t...Yah, FAIR just sent out Rapunzel's typically tamped-down response. Guess she did kinda grudgingly concede. Sorta.biggo!pinko!fuzzio!bunnio!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-35145943468761349032010-02-05T10:23:20.562-06:002010-02-05T10:23:20.562-06:00The Cleveland Plain Dealer, the hallowed newspaper...The Cleveland Plain Dealer, the hallowed newspaper cited by Shepard as a beacon of journalistic integrity, employs its own Ombuttsman, whom they call, with non-ironic Orwellian precision, the "Reader's Representative." He's a management mouthpiece, and each of his bellicose columns defending the terrible decisions made by his employers is an unintentional comic masterpiece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-45324879217259597792010-02-05T10:18:38.270-06:002010-02-05T10:18:38.270-06:00Great job MM. And I thought I'd covered everyt...Great job MM. And I thought I'd covered everything.<br /><br />: )<br /><br />goopDoggy<br />Love your post. And I agree.<br /><br />Anon<br />dis[of Zinn]ambling!!!!<br /><br />Grumps<br />Excellent points. I hope you left them there, too. Else I will post them and you will be one of my "sources".<br /><br />Have you joined the team yet?Nate Bowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-11383396579420791562010-02-05T09:16:33.133-06:002010-02-05T09:16:33.133-06:00Well, I shouldn't post before my second cup of...Well, I shouldn't post before my second cup of coffee.<br /><br />Hey, kids for fun how many times can you say:<br /><br />"White Right Wing Race-baiting"<br /><br />as fast as possible.GRUMPY DEMOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14076837066633851919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-22687552363486493492010-02-05T09:13:23.235-06:002010-02-05T09:13:23.235-06:00Not much to add, well written and thoughtful, . . ...Not much to add, well written and thoughtful, . . . now for something completely different:<br /><br />Just two more points:<br /><br />No. 1 "Keyes declined to be interviewed" - I'll bet.<br /><br />I can't imagine why Keyes an African American reporter who let a White Right Wing Race-baiting smear artist denigrate a WWII combat veteran who was an early civil rights advocate, declined to be interviewed?<br /><br />I seems to me at NPR Dr. King's "dream" has been achieved.<br /><br />No. 2 Noticed that the Ombudsman hasn't responded to your challenge of her statement "some historians were dismissive of his work."<br /><br />The (not an)Ombudsman can't or won't cite who "some historians" are? "Some people" believe she's just pulling stuff out of her, . . . "almost 30 years' experience" as a journalist.<br /><br />Seems to me the Ombudsman is using someone's talking points.<br /><br />No.3 (I'm not counting).<br /><br />Every time NPR gets caught in it's Right Wing hackery, (see Alicia's defense of a prior Gay smear piece: Supports of Prop 8 where being persecuted by Gays.) she trots out the "balance" argument.<br /><br />She using Kenneth Tomlinson's TALKING POINTS when he attempt to politicize Public Broadcasting, he was merely bring "balance to NPR." The depressing thing to me, is not that W and Rove politicized CPB, it's that so many of it's employees have rolled over Alicia continue his legacy.GRUMPY DEMOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14076837066633851919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-63168684903431386942010-02-05T08:58:06.330-06:002010-02-05T08:58:06.330-06:00'That doesn't undermine the legitimacy of ...<i>'That doesn't undermine the legitimacy of using his point of view,' said Sweeney. 'If there is a problem with what Horowitz has to say, it's that he's allowed to wield a sharp tongue without providing any justification or evidence to support his words: more heat than light.' "</i><br /><br />That pretty much sums up what is wrong with all mainstream news today.<br /><br />it is not based on truth. In fact, truth has nothing to do with it.<br /><br />It's all about "airing different viewpoints", no matter how false they may be.<br /><br />As long as you 'balance" one view "from the left" with one view "from the right', you have done your job as a "journalist".<br /><br />Worse still, news organizations actually use this balance ruse as a weapon to further their own agenda.<br /><br />it allows them to claim themselves 'above the fray" even when one of the views that they aired was completely false or even libelous (which in many cases was actually by design).<br /><br />"Fair and balanced" has not only become an excuse for sloppy journalism, but (worst of all) has become a cover for dishonest, unehtical journalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-23851913830694844532010-02-05T08:30:53.907-06:002010-02-05T08:30:53.907-06:00She thought it was fair to use Horowitz to balance...She thought it was <b>fair</b> to use Horowitz to <b>balance</b> out leftist academic Noam Chomsky,"<br /><br />Can NPR claim that, "Fair and balance[d]"?<br /><br />I thought Fox had a copyright...<br /><br />Great job dissecting Alicia Shepard's dissembling (dis[of Zinn]ambling?)<br /><br />Unfortunately, what NPR really needs is yet another ombudsman to keep the current "Ombudsman in an Edgar-suit" (Men in Black) in line.<br /><br />of course, the chance that this second ombudsman would be real (ie, anything more than a shill) would also be zero, so that would mean "ombots to infinity and beyond".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-61864909882382348522010-02-05T08:09:48.690-06:002010-02-05T08:09:48.690-06:00Beautifully done, MM. I couldn't bear to look ...Beautifully done, MM. I couldn't bear to look too closely at it, as I am still in a state of shock about the whole matter. Where I come from, ideologically, Zinn was as "controversial" as Grandpa (and as beloved), so I was surprised to see him painted as a fire-breathing loon. But I shouldn't have been, in that he was influential and his message was a threat to power.pamelanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-84663081324315053292010-02-05T07:03:13.629-06:002010-02-05T07:03:13.629-06:00Excellent analysis.Excellent analysis.John Duffynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27644679.post-4807784894691773992010-02-05T00:33:02.765-06:002010-02-05T00:33:02.765-06:00Wow, I gotta say my read of Shepard's second d...Wow, I gotta say my read of Shepard's second doing in of Zinn missed much of the nefarious rhetoric that MTW caught here. My critical acumen for detecting propagandizing innuendo barely holds a candle to MTW. MTW wields a surgeon's scalpel to dissect and unpack the false insinuations like no other. <br /><br />Can we get Murrey a syndication with say Salon or some higher profile outfit to raise visibility? Then we can continue this obscure blog as a team knowing that the leader is carrying the flame to burn the back sides of the seats of the power elite.gDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04301694571913815244noreply@blogger.com