Monday, May 11, 2009

Tortured to Death? Ho Hum...

Liane Hansen has a little chat with "Retired Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez was in charge of the ground forces in Iraq when some of those techniques were used at the Abu Ghraib prison." During the interview Sanchez relates the following:
"We got a little bit of an insight into what they [CIA] were doing when they did drop off what came to be known as Iceman at Abu Ghraib in the fall of 2003....we clearly understood that they were using some very, very aggressive techniques, and in fact had wound up with this man dead in the course of an interrogation....he was brought to Abu Ghraib and handed off to my conventional forces there at the prison, and we eventually wound up repatriating him to his family to be taken care of and interred."
HOLY CRAP! Sanchez is describing the fact that the CIA and US forces tortured a man to death. Hansen doesn't express shock, disgust, surprise...anything. She manages a brief interruption to ask who "Iceman" was, but that's it.

Another chapter in the banality of evil.

7 comments:

biig!piink!fuuzzy!buunny! said...

"wound up." What a nice euphemism - stated twice at that.

Anonymous said...

"they [CIA] were using some very, very aggressive techniques..."

I wonder: When did murder become an effective "technique" for getting people to talk?

This is "intelligence"?

All I can say is "wow!"

This is not just sick, illegal and immoral. It's just plain idiotic.

Only a complete moron would kill the person he was trying to get information from.

Juan "Toss" Ensalada said...

Bunny,

"Wound up Dead?" Wasn't that the name of a movie? Oh sorry, "Better Off Dead" was the name of the movie. Same difference, right Liann?

-JET

Anonymous said...

Carolyn A Wood was transferred from Baghram to Abu Graib. She was a Captain and while she was in Afghanistan she received two Bronze Stars. At least two detainees were tortured and murdered there so maybe she got one for each. I think it went from Miller in Cuba to Wood in Abu Graib. Sanchez is lying. The US military, along with the CIA, tortured and murdered. Wood is a Major now and movin on up. I suspect she is protected by someone or other because you never see or hear of her but she was in charge on the blocks in each location. She knew crimes were being committed. She will eventual become General Wood.

edk

Anonymous said...

Anon:


"Only a complete moron would kill the person he was trying to get information from."


Dilawar was murdered in part because his main interrogator (21 year old Joshua Claus) became "angry" during one of the sessions conducted over 96 hours. I imagine there are dozens of dead people that died partly because the interrogators (remember Bush claim that only professionals were doing the interrogations) got angry and just used brute force. Dilawar's injuries were "consistent with being hit by a bus" (US ARMY coroner's report).

And think how slamming people's heads into walls gets anything other than concussions, and skull fractures and death(?). Seems like a guy that is knocked out doesn't have much to say.

And it all started in the Executive offices of the President of the United States of America.

edk

Anonymous said...

Dilawar was murdered in part because his main interrogator (21 year old Joshua Claus) became "angry" during one of the sessions conducted over 96 hours."

That's basically what I meant by "moron".

A real professional would not let anger trump reason (in any area of endeavor, but especially not in the area of interrogation.

It's actually a major screwup to let the prisoner know that he has ticked you (the interrogator) off.

No real professional would ever make that mistake. Only a moron.

As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does.

Anonymous said...

My biggest fear? My new next door neighbor will introduce himself to me and he would say, "Hi there, I'm Joshua Claus and I just bought the house next door. Good to know yah." But, but . . . the guy did 4 months in the brig and lost his pay AND was busted back down to spec 1. And Bush and the torturers are out and about and showing up on NPR.

edk

edk